GRAHAM: So you grew up in New York?
GREEN: I grew up in Mount Kisco, which is a small town about an hour away, in Westchester. It was nice. My parents lived in the city and they moved to Westchester to raise kids, which I think is really noble. I think itโs really good to grow up around trees, parks, fields, fresh airโฆ I think thatโs nice. I just got in an argument with this lady who was like โItโs perfectly great to raise kids in Manhattan.โ I was like, โYeah, youโre saying that โcause you have some nanny or somethingโฆโ I think my parents made the right decision, they were pretty selfless in doing that. I think my parents were pretty good. Iโve got a high opinion of them.
GRAHAM: When did you move to Manhattan?
GREEN: Well, my parents moved back when my brother and I grew up. When I was about seventeen, they moved back here, and I just kind of started wandering around. I became a folk singer.
GRAHAM: Did you ever play in the subway?
GREEN: Definitely. I played in the subway, on the N R train, on the 8th Street stop, quite often. Sometimes by myself and sometimes with Turner Cody, whoโs a really great singer. We would alternate. I also played on the street. I guess for a time I almost became one of the kids thatโs just sort of like at Astor Place near the cube. For a little while I was kind of a cube kid. But then I also found my way to the Sidewalk Cafรฉ, which is a folk club, and I started performing there. I think I was a decent subway singer, and I played mostly original materialโฆ I think that was cool. I donโt know why, when I get on the train, I donโt see as many people doing it. Maybe theyโve cracked down or something. I definitely think I wrote some pretty barbed lyrics to get the attention of people walking by. It was cool, because I met the local peers of mine in the subwayโฆ they were my first friends.
GRAHAM: Is that when you realized you wanted to make music a career?
GREEN: I really, really didnโt want to work at McDonaldโs or something, and I didnโt have any training to do anything but fine arts, so I knew I had to do music or something like thatโฆ and I guess I got cracking really young, I was just everywhere. I was always on the street, and I always had a bunch of CDs and flyers, I was just on a mission. Maybe also because I think my parents didnโt really want me to be a singer, so that helped to motivate me. I feel like for years, my dad really couldnโt look me in the eye because he thought I was delusional.
GRAHAM: Doesnโt it feel good now to prove him wrong?
GREEN: Sometimes, and then sometimes I feel like they were right. [laughs]
GRAHAM: How did your first album come about?
GREEN: Well, I recorded a set of songs around the same time as The Moldy Peaches album came out. The Moldy Peaches is a collection of different home recordings that are mashed up together. I think the main difference between my first album and The Moldy Peaches is that itโs just songs that Kimya [Dawson] didnโt sing on. I think Iโd probably offered or showed
GRAHAM: How did you and Kimya Dawson meet?
GREEN: Sheโs from Mount Kiscoโฆ from a neighboring town, Bedford Hills. She worked at the record store, and I worked at the pizzeria, so I would come to her on lunch break and Iโd bring my guitar. I met her at a poetry reading at the art center in Mount Kisco. Sheโs a lot older than me, and I think at the time everyone thought we were really an odd couple. She was like 21 and I was like 14โฆ Sheโd come over to my house, and my parents would think, like, โWhoโs your older friendโฆ?โ But that seems to be in keeping with me. Iโve always been friends with whoever I thought to be friends with, and I never really cared if people thought they were the โrightโ friends that I should have.
GRAHAM: Can you tell me about your collaboration with Binki Shapiro? Your albumโs going to be released next month, right?
GREEN: It was my idea to make a duets album with her, just because I thought she was really talented, and I really liked listening to her sing. I thought itโd be fun to try to write with her, and work with her, and weโd known each other as friends for a bunch of years. Iโd toured with Little Joy in Brazil; I was a supporting act. Little Joy is really popular in Brazil. I think [Binki and I] had kind of bonded on that tour, and then a couple of years later the idea popped into my headโฆ it wasnโt like there were a bunch of other people I wanted to work with, she was really my first choice. So I just went with it. I think I also wanted to write with somebody because Iโd just done something like six or seven solo albums that followed The Moldy Peaches. Thatโs like a decade of having no one ever give their opinion about anything I did artistically. So it was pretty fun to work with her creatively, because I hadnโt let anyone in for a long time.
GRAHAM: I read about it being a breakup album of sortsโฆ can you elaborate?
GREEN: I definitely think itโs a nighttime album. I would encourage people to get the vinyl and listen to it like that. Itโs far from a collection of pop singles, itโs much more of an album โalbum. Itโs not very long, only about ten songs. I think in my head I can sort of piece together a narrative about a dysfunctional relationship inside of the track listing. The track listing was one thing that Binki and I really agreed on, so we must see some sort of picture of the album as a whole that we share. But I donโt know, we both were going through different kinds of weird relationship stuff during the writing of the album. I think when we both started writing, she just came over to my houseโฆ we drank a bottle of wine, we were writing a bit, we went out and got Chinese foodโฆ maybe it was our third writing session that we started to realize that we were in some really messed up relationships. We didnโt even really talk about it, but during the course of writing the record, we found that our relationships fell apart. So we were using each other as confidantes in the writing process, and it was great to be making these composite situations, sort of Frankenstein-ing together different thingsโฆ also putting ourselves in the head space of each other, so that we could know or at least propose things for each other to sing, which was interesting, and I liked the result of it. We did a lot of articles and interviews on it, and really now weโre just waiting for it to come out. I just feel likeโฆ are the people that are reading the article ever going to hear the thing? So thatโll be cool, when it comes out. I feel like itโs a bit like Groundhog Day, itโs like every day of the year I wake up and think, โOh, this albumโs not out yet?โ Itโs been pushed back quite a bit. We recorded it without knowing what was going to happen, we just made it to make it. And then we both had to change management during the course of it, so it slowed everything down, which was kind of annoying. But Iโm really proud of it, and excited for everyone to hear it. And honestly, people have been so kind about it. I think most of my things have a punk element to them that is distasteful to manyโฆ People brush off a lot of my stuff immediately, but people seem to be acting kinder about this album. Maybe theyโre able to hear it because they think Iโm not trying to be a punk about it. I guess my natural inclinationโs always been to punish the world until they learn to love me for who I am.